rough draft - RP sockpuppeteer account
Jun. 22nd, 2006 12:54 pmInspired by the recent account of the activities of "msscribe" in HP fandom, those of us in Rat Patrol who survived a very similar experience have decided to try to post a public account as well.
Here is a most-names-removed version of the account I sent to a number of people a few years ago. Anyone who has info to add (
shawan_7, this is your cue), please comment!
ETA: Additional material can be found at:
http://amedia.livejournal.com/58790.html (miscellaneous tidbits and an account of the C&D that occurred before the sock puppet fiasco)
http://amedia.livejournal.com/58962.html (Kathy Agel's account of the sock puppet fiasco as posted to FCA-L)
http://amedia.livejournal.com/59214.html (maquisbabe's posts to the Yahoo Rat Patrol club)
http://amedia.livejournal.com/59449.html (links to responses with additional info from alternate perspectives)
http://community.livejournal.com/fanthropology/241541.html (my post linking to this post on fanthropology - garnered some good comments)
http://community.livejournal.com/fanthropology/241829.html (
mecurtin's fanthropology post "Diagnosing Malicious Puppetry" - a thoughtful post plus more good comments)
http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/402274.html?thread=29989986#t29989986 (discussion of the RP sock puppet fiasco on fandom_wank in 2004 - includes concise accounts by one of the Jedi and by Nancy's friend)
I originally wrote this account in 2002; I've been trying to edit it to make things clearer. Suggestions welcome!
A couple of years ago (i.e. in 2000), there was a small but active group of Rat Patrol fans, most of whom knew each other by postal mail or email and had chatted on the phone or met in person. (For now I'll refer to these people as "oldtime fans," but there must be a better appellation.) In addition to an email listserv run by Kathy Agel, a new group called the Rat Patrol Yahoo Club had sprung up, attracting additional fans from the Internet. It seemed to be doing pretty well. There were some new Canadian fans (RP was being rerun in Canada at the time) and other new fans who were fitting in quite well, as well as some guys named Max, Keith, and Gene, who wandered in from somewhere and tended to "top" whatever everyone else said, but otherwise behaved themselves. Two of the new fans were writing hilarious episode synopses for a popular Rat Patrol fan website, and they also came up with an idea for a new fanzine, that would be an all hetero-romance anthology called "Romancing the Rats." We all made positive noises about it. Another one of the newer fans had an idea for a zine to be called "Rats on the Edge," which would feature stories that put the Rats (or Dietrich) into unusually challenging situations where they might be forced to act in a way that would normally be out of character. We made puzzled but positive noises about that as well.
Then a rather odd thing happened. The aforementioned guys, along with a woman going by the screenname CatO, who had previously been active in Garrison's Gorillas fandom,a woman named Sofi a guy who claimed to be Rat Patrol actor Justin Tarr, and the three new fans formed a kind of syndicate and announced that they would all work together on both new zines. The group was called "Rainbow Butterfly Press," but was quickly nicknamed "Gang of Eight" for their high-handed attitude and heavy-handed tactics. They accepted very few submissions and sent back brutal, nasty, and inaccurate edits to anyone whose work they didn't like (=who wasn't in the inner circle).
Also around this time, one of the club members began complaining of getting unpleasant private emails from other members off-list. She mentioned this on-list, but I don't know of anyone she talked to about it privately. She was a girl who had actuallyonce dated Justin Tarr for a few months corresponded with Justin Tarr for a couple of years and was hoping to find him again. She tended to get into scraps with CatO, Max, Keith, Gene, and Sofi during chats. They told the rest of us in chats that this girl was actually dangerous and a potential stalker; when we saw her in chat, she did seem to come across as obsessed or irrational (of course, that's how the socks were manipulating people's perceptions).
More strange things happened. One of the oldtime RP fans who had recently decided to edit a genzine received a submission from one of the guys; it was an explicit hetero-adult story and not even a good one. She turned it down, of course, but got savaged both in chat and in private emails for doing so. Most of us would have blown this off, but this particular fan was suffering from insecurity and fled to another fandom--a loss to Rat Patrol.
Another oldtime Rat Patrol fan announced on the list that she had managed to get hold of Gary Raymond (the actor who played Moffitt) and he was willing to come to the U.S. for the Long Range Desert Convention. A little later, one of the guys, Max, said that he had gotten hold of Justin Tarr (the actor who played Tully), and forwarded some vague friendly noises from him. Max explained that although Justin (unlike Gary) had Internet access, he was not willing to come to chats or participate directly on the club because he was afraid of the aforementioned former girlfriend. However, Max occasionally forwarded messages from Justin to the club members.
While most of the active listmembers were away at MediaWest (2000, I think) the club's founder stepped down, citing vague reasons for distress, apparently something to do with the nastygrams that the girl who dated Justin had been getting. We later learned that she had been receiving private nastygrams herself, but didn't think any of us would take her side, so didn't share them. One of the two fans who had originally proposed the Romancing the Rats zine took over running the club. She had once been a sweet, bubbly person with a terrific sense of humor, but she gradually became more and more hostile and defensive.
Over a period of time, there developed an obvious rift on the club. The Rainbow Butterfly Press folks tried to spin it as Americans vs. Canadians or printfen vs. netfen or the email listserv vs. the Yahoo club, but it didn't fall clearly along those lines. There was an underlying current among the Rainbow Butterfly folks that men and married women were superior to typical unmarried female fans, and that the people from Rainbow Butterfly were the best writers and editors in the world. Anyone who said anything favorable about anyone else's fanzines tended to get trashed both on and off the club, and the new clubmom wouldn't stop it. Indeed, she was likely to delete posts she disagreed with.
Chats became more and more touchy.One of the guys - Gene, I think - "Justin Tarr" claimed to be a professional editor. The fan who was working on the Long Range Desert Convention, who used to be an editor at a publishing house in New York (Random House, maybe, I forget) tried to talk shop with him once, but he was rude and dismissive.
Then we were informed that CatO, Sofi, and the guys were actually members of a much larger RP club that had been going on for thirty years, with hundreds of members, quite a few fanzines, and several international conventions. Of course, everyone wanted to see the fanzines - I was fascinated by the idea of another world of fanzines co-existing with the one I'm familiar with, like dark matter in the normal universe. It didn't seem totally unbelievable since most of the people I knew came into RP through media science fiction fandom, and I knew there was a whole world of WWII enthusiasts who were for the most part unconnected to us. But they refused to produce the zines - they were lost, or packed away, or too fragile to share. And their claims of 2000-member cons in places like Tokyo certainly didn't sound realistic.
The members of this supposed earlier club then began joining the Yahoo RP Club. Every new member who joined caused an automatic welcome message to be posted to the club. By strange coincidence, large numbers of people tended to subscribe every time an interesting conversation got going; the welcome message and the new members' responses would make it very difficult to follow any other threads. We took to referring to that group as "the 700 Club."
In the meantime, the owner of the email listserv was getting a lot of private nastygrams, mostly from Sofi, and got into the habit of forwarding them around to some of us. The email listserv owner tends to get into scraps with people on a regular basis, though, so at first I didn't pay a lot of attention to them.
A very earnest fan named Nancy (not one of the oldtimers, but apparently a real person), in an attempt to heal the rift, started a new activity that everyone could join in on. This was a storyboard, to which anyone was welcome to post a chapter of an ongoing story, following a few simple rules. Several of the Gang of Eight joined, broke rules repeatedly, tried to prevent anyone else from posting, and finally left in a huff, demanding that all their chapters be removed (thereby leaving gaping holes in the storyline). Nancy had a very good friend and defender who was also clearly a real person (and a different person than Nancy), [ETA: Ruth], and the two of them were obviously on the side of the angels; those of us from the old guard nicknamed them "LightSiders" (as in belonging to the Light Side, not the Dark Side).
The Gang of Eight brought out three issues of each of the two new zines (Rats on the Edge and Romancing the Rats) at the LRDC in May 2001. They were agented by Cinda Gillilan's Neon Rainbow Press, a reputable dealer who is not implicated in any of this. CatO brought along an armload and sold them next to the orphan zine table, then took prepaid orders for Cinda to fill. One of the other new editors was also there, as were some other Canadian fans; the rift seemed at least partly healed.
After the con, though, things got bad again. A bunch of us oldtimers compared notes and decided that obviously the several hundred fans from the earlier club weren't real. After some more note-comparing, we decided that some of the Gang of Eight weren't real either. We'd met CatO and one of the three original editors at the LRDC, and enough people had met the other two original editors that we were pretty sure they existed. That left Sofi, Max, Gene, and Keith. No one had ever met any of them in person or knew anyone who had, and they all seemed to act pretty much in unison on every issue. We began trying to guess who was a person and who was a puppet, and who was running which puppet. We pretty much settled on the woman who had taken over as clubmom as one of the possible suspects (the other two original editors, including the one we had met at the LRDC, had pretty much dropped out of sight), and CatO as another possible suspect.
In the middle of all this, a new character arrived, a guy named who signed himself "iamtheonlyweasel" (quickly nicknamed "The Weasel"). He backed up everything the sock puppets said and did, but he didn't write in the same style or make the same grammatical errors. Indeed, he had an talent for creative invective. He nearly got kicked off the email list for suggesting that someone (either Nancy or Agel) had her head so far up her ass that there were spincter marks around her neck. (Agel was SO not amused.)
Then we got a break in the case. Remember that CatO was selling Rainbow Butterfly Press zines by the orphan zine table at the LRDC? It turns out that she refused to pay the orphan zine commission to the con (which went to charity), and sent the con-mom some surprisingly abusive, hate-filled email about it. A fan who was helping with post-con paperwork forwarded the email to the rest of us oldtimers, and one thing was really obvious from both style and content: the same person who wrote this email also wrote the nastygrams to the email listserv owner from Sofi.
A number of the oldtimers met at Eclecticon in November 2001. We pooled what limited knowledge we had and attempted to formulate a plan. It was obvious that the sock puppeteers had some very specific strategies. For instance, almost all their victims fit a certain pattern: (a) they were recognized for an accomplishment and (b) they were vulnerable. The first girl attacked had actually corresponded with Justin Tarr (which the sock puppeteers clearly saw an accomplishment to be jealous of). The puppeteers deliberately provoked her to make her *seem* crazy to the rest of us. There was method to this madness - as long as she seemed to be a threat, they didn't have to produce the real Justin. The genzine editor, another victim, was well-known as a gifted writer, but recently mentioned in chat that she was being treated for depression and was nervous about editing her own zine for the first time. The original club founder had not only founded a successful club, but had edited a zine (APO North Africa) and written a Rat Patrol novel; as far as vulnerability goes, not only was did she suffer from insecurity, but her mother was dying at the time. Also, driving her away enabled them to put one of their own in charge of the club. The LRDC con-mom had put on a wonderful convention and edited a successful zine; when attacked, she was going through a typical case of post-con blues.
Another pattern we had noticed was that every time someone mentioned something good that didn't have to do with the Gang of Eight, we were immediately drowned out or even contradicted. One of the oldtimers suggested we take advantage of that - everybody talk up Eclecticon to make the sock puppeteers mad, and maybe they'd make a mistake.
That's exactly what happened. A new sock puppet, "Marcia," appeared who claimed to have been at Eclecticon. In order to top our fun-filled account, she even claimed to have met Justin Tarr's grandson there at Cinda's table! On a different list for Justin Tarr groupies, the person posting as Justin Tarr acknowledged that this was true. But there were so many errors in this person's account that it was easy to prove false - which meant, by extension, that the person claiming to be Justin Tarr had to be fake as well.
In early December, someone posted three posts at 6 a.m. to the Rat Patrol club. One of them laid out the evidence that "Marcia" could not possibly have attended Eclecticon. The second one explained that the person posting as "Justin Tarr" couldn't possibly be the real Justin Tarr since he had confirmed Marcia's false account. The third, entitled, "Jealousy, Cruelty, and Cowardice" outlined the attacks made upon individuals. They were deleted by the clubmom a few hours later, but the damage had been done. A few people posted protesting the three posts, but those posts were deleted as well. All of the hundreds of puppets from the 30-year-old club unsubscribed, one after another, over the course of a few hours. So did the more prominent/individual puppets like Max, Keith, Gene, and Sofi, as did CatO and finally, the new clubmom. The original club founder came back.
It was spooky. There were a few days of stunned silence, and then people who had been lurking for months, afraid to post because of the all the nastiness, began poking their noses out. Explanations were made and repeated. There were some people who still didn't believe it, and thought that the sock puppets left because the three posts were nasty lies that hurt their feelings. The Weasel was among them - at first.
Unbeknownst to those of us who had been at Eclecticon,the storyboard girl Nancy and her friend Ruth ("the LightSiders") had been quietly working on one of the original editors (the one who proposed "Rats on the Edge") and on The Weasel. The three posts hadn't quite convinced them, but it had planted a seed of doubt in their minds, and the Weasel was usefully geeky. Among the four of them, they got what they needed to check the Internet Protocol addresses of the messages posted to the main Rat Patrol club as well as the private Justin Tarr groupie club.
The IP addresses for every sock puppet, from the 700+ old-club members to the individuals like Sofi and Max, indicated that every single post came from one person. Some of them traced back to CatO's home computer; many more of them traced back to her work computer. We were dumbfounded. We had assumed there was a ring of puppeteers: there was only one. The Weasel had once hated us just because his "friends" did; now he hated "them" much more because he realized he'd been deceived and betrayed, and became a staunch ally to the LightSiders. He posted the IP information in detail to several RP lists, including the Yahoo club, the email listserv, and the Justin Tarr groupie list.
At this point, all that was left was mopping up. We posted discreetly, not naming names, to several multifandom lists describing the pattern and what to watch out for. (She had done the same thing in Garrison's Gorillas fandom, andno one had warned RP most RP fans hadn't known about it.) Nancy told CatO's supervisors what she had been doing with her computer on company time, and she got fired. ETA: At the time I thought that was foolish and possibly dangerous, but I have since learned that there were very good reasons. As near as we can tell, there have been no repercussions; we were afraid she would retaliate. We did learn something very funny, which was that, while we were calling Nancy & her friend "Lightsiders," they were referring to the oldtimers as the "Jedi Knights." Same metaphor!
It turned out that many of the stories in the six zines published by Rainbow Butterfly Press were written by CatO under various pen names; a number of the others had been plagiarized. The RBP webpages vanished overnight, and the zines were pulled from Cinda's press. I suppose they're collectors' items now!
The woman who originally proposed Rats on the Edge broke away from the group of CatO's insiders to join with the LightSiders and successfully remained active in fandom.Storyboard girl's friend (this is awkward because I don't have permission to use names yet) has successfully salvaged the poor girl who had proposed Rats on the Edge; the two of them She and Nancy's friend Ruth had put out at least one zine together when I wrote this account in 2002 and were working on another. The other two girls, the ones who had proposed Romancing the Rats, are apparently gone for good. [Note: I think one of them has finally resurfaced.] [ETA: I think both?]
Nancy's friend Ruth came to Eclecticon in 2002, so the Jedi Knights finally met one of the LightSiders, and she told us what the girl from Rats on the Edge had shared with her about what it was like to be part of the inner circle. None of them knew that Max and Keith and Gene and Sofi and Justin Tarr weren't real; it was like a cult, complete with brainwashing and mind games. Really creepy stuff. Some serious personal damage was done to the insiders; all were shell-shocked, and one of them (the one who was put in the place of the club mom) ended up divorced.
There was an almost soldier-like camaraderie among those of us who had been there on St. Crispin's Day, if that makes sense. But there was also a lot of regret for the people who had been hurt, both inside and outside the circle.
I know this leaves out a lot - the pseudo-foreign posters who couldn't fool the ESL teacher among the oldtimers; CatO's claims to be the mother of a cadet in one of the service academies who was following in the footsteps of his father and grandfather; the whole 9/11 mess with sock puppets trapped in the World Trade Tower. Hope this will at least provide the bare bones on which to hang a more complete story.
Here is a most-names-removed version of the account I sent to a number of people a few years ago. Anyone who has info to add (
ETA: Additional material can be found at:
http://amedia.livejournal.com/58790.html (miscellaneous tidbits and an account of the C&D that occurred before the sock puppet fiasco)
http://amedia.livejournal.com/58962.html (Kathy Agel's account of the sock puppet fiasco as posted to FCA-L)
http://amedia.livejournal.com/59214.html (maquisbabe's posts to the Yahoo Rat Patrol club)
http://amedia.livejournal.com/59449.html (links to responses with additional info from alternate perspectives)
http://community.livejournal.com/fanthropology/241541.html (my post linking to this post on fanthropology - garnered some good comments)
http://community.livejournal.com/fanthropology/241829.html (
http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/402274.html?thread=29989986#t29989986 (discussion of the RP sock puppet fiasco on fandom_wank in 2004 - includes concise accounts by one of the Jedi and by Nancy's friend)
I originally wrote this account in 2002; I've been trying to edit it to make things clearer. Suggestions welcome!
A couple of years ago (i.e. in 2000), there was a small but active group of Rat Patrol fans, most of whom knew each other by postal mail or email and had chatted on the phone or met in person. (For now I'll refer to these people as "oldtime fans," but there must be a better appellation.) In addition to an email listserv run by Kathy Agel, a new group called the Rat Patrol Yahoo Club had sprung up, attracting additional fans from the Internet. It seemed to be doing pretty well. There were some new Canadian fans (RP was being rerun in Canada at the time) and other new fans who were fitting in quite well, as well as some guys named Max, Keith, and Gene, who wandered in from somewhere and tended to "top" whatever everyone else said, but otherwise behaved themselves. Two of the new fans were writing hilarious episode synopses for a popular Rat Patrol fan website, and they also came up with an idea for a new fanzine, that would be an all hetero-romance anthology called "Romancing the Rats." We all made positive noises about it. Another one of the newer fans had an idea for a zine to be called "Rats on the Edge," which would feature stories that put the Rats (or Dietrich) into unusually challenging situations where they might be forced to act in a way that would normally be out of character. We made puzzled but positive noises about that as well.
Then a rather odd thing happened. The aforementioned guys, along with a woman going by the screenname CatO, who had previously been active in Garrison's Gorillas fandom,
Also around this time, one of the club members began complaining of getting unpleasant private emails from other members off-list. She mentioned this on-list, but I don't know of anyone she talked to about it privately. She was a girl who had actually
More strange things happened. One of the oldtime RP fans who had recently decided to edit a genzine received a submission from one of the guys; it was an explicit hetero-adult story and not even a good one. She turned it down, of course, but got savaged both in chat and in private emails for doing so. Most of us would have blown this off, but this particular fan was suffering from insecurity and fled to another fandom--a loss to Rat Patrol.
Another oldtime Rat Patrol fan announced on the list that she had managed to get hold of Gary Raymond (the actor who played Moffitt) and he was willing to come to the U.S. for the Long Range Desert Convention. A little later, one of the guys, Max, said that he had gotten hold of Justin Tarr (the actor who played Tully), and forwarded some vague friendly noises from him. Max explained that although Justin (unlike Gary) had Internet access, he was not willing to come to chats or participate directly on the club because he was afraid of the aforementioned former girlfriend. However, Max occasionally forwarded messages from Justin to the club members.
While most of the active listmembers were away at MediaWest (2000, I think) the club's founder stepped down, citing vague reasons for distress, apparently something to do with the nastygrams that the girl who dated Justin had been getting. We later learned that she had been receiving private nastygrams herself, but didn't think any of us would take her side, so didn't share them. One of the two fans who had originally proposed the Romancing the Rats zine took over running the club. She had once been a sweet, bubbly person with a terrific sense of humor, but she gradually became more and more hostile and defensive.
Over a period of time, there developed an obvious rift on the club. The Rainbow Butterfly Press folks tried to spin it as Americans vs. Canadians or printfen vs. netfen or the email listserv vs. the Yahoo club, but it didn't fall clearly along those lines. There was an underlying current among the Rainbow Butterfly folks that men and married women were superior to typical unmarried female fans, and that the people from Rainbow Butterfly were the best writers and editors in the world. Anyone who said anything favorable about anyone else's fanzines tended to get trashed both on and off the club, and the new clubmom wouldn't stop it. Indeed, she was likely to delete posts she disagreed with.
Chats became more and more touchy.
Then we were informed that CatO, Sofi, and the guys were actually members of a much larger RP club that had been going on for thirty years, with hundreds of members, quite a few fanzines, and several international conventions. Of course, everyone wanted to see the fanzines - I was fascinated by the idea of another world of fanzines co-existing with the one I'm familiar with, like dark matter in the normal universe. It didn't seem totally unbelievable since most of the people I knew came into RP through media science fiction fandom, and I knew there was a whole world of WWII enthusiasts who were for the most part unconnected to us. But they refused to produce the zines - they were lost, or packed away, or too fragile to share. And their claims of 2000-member cons in places like Tokyo certainly didn't sound realistic.
The members of this supposed earlier club then began joining the Yahoo RP Club. Every new member who joined caused an automatic welcome message to be posted to the club. By strange coincidence, large numbers of people tended to subscribe every time an interesting conversation got going; the welcome message and the new members' responses would make it very difficult to follow any other threads. We took to referring to that group as "the 700 Club."
In the meantime, the owner of the email listserv was getting a lot of private nastygrams, mostly from Sofi, and got into the habit of forwarding them around to some of us. The email listserv owner tends to get into scraps with people on a regular basis, though, so at first I didn't pay a lot of attention to them.
A very earnest fan named Nancy (not one of the oldtimers, but apparently a real person), in an attempt to heal the rift, started a new activity that everyone could join in on. This was a storyboard, to which anyone was welcome to post a chapter of an ongoing story, following a few simple rules. Several of the Gang of Eight joined, broke rules repeatedly, tried to prevent anyone else from posting, and finally left in a huff, demanding that all their chapters be removed (thereby leaving gaping holes in the storyline). Nancy had a very good friend and defender who was also clearly a real person (and a different person than Nancy), [ETA: Ruth], and the two of them were obviously on the side of the angels; those of us from the old guard nicknamed them "LightSiders" (as in belonging to the Light Side, not the Dark Side).
The Gang of Eight brought out three issues of each of the two new zines (Rats on the Edge and Romancing the Rats) at the LRDC in May 2001. They were agented by Cinda Gillilan's Neon Rainbow Press, a reputable dealer who is not implicated in any of this. CatO brought along an armload and sold them next to the orphan zine table, then took prepaid orders for Cinda to fill. One of the other new editors was also there, as were some other Canadian fans; the rift seemed at least partly healed.
After the con, though, things got bad again. A bunch of us oldtimers compared notes and decided that obviously the several hundred fans from the earlier club weren't real. After some more note-comparing, we decided that some of the Gang of Eight weren't real either. We'd met CatO and one of the three original editors at the LRDC, and enough people had met the other two original editors that we were pretty sure they existed. That left Sofi, Max, Gene, and Keith. No one had ever met any of them in person or knew anyone who had, and they all seemed to act pretty much in unison on every issue. We began trying to guess who was a person and who was a puppet, and who was running which puppet. We pretty much settled on the woman who had taken over as clubmom as one of the possible suspects (the other two original editors, including the one we had met at the LRDC, had pretty much dropped out of sight), and CatO as another possible suspect.
In the middle of all this, a new character arrived, a guy named who signed himself "iamtheonlyweasel" (quickly nicknamed "The Weasel"). He backed up everything the sock puppets said and did, but he didn't write in the same style or make the same grammatical errors. Indeed, he had an talent for creative invective. He nearly got kicked off the email list for suggesting that someone (either Nancy or Agel) had her head so far up her ass that there were spincter marks around her neck. (Agel was SO not amused.)
Then we got a break in the case. Remember that CatO was selling Rainbow Butterfly Press zines by the orphan zine table at the LRDC? It turns out that she refused to pay the orphan zine commission to the con (which went to charity), and sent the con-mom some surprisingly abusive, hate-filled email about it. A fan who was helping with post-con paperwork forwarded the email to the rest of us oldtimers, and one thing was really obvious from both style and content: the same person who wrote this email also wrote the nastygrams to the email listserv owner from Sofi.
A number of the oldtimers met at Eclecticon in November 2001. We pooled what limited knowledge we had and attempted to formulate a plan. It was obvious that the sock puppeteers had some very specific strategies. For instance, almost all their victims fit a certain pattern: (a) they were recognized for an accomplishment and (b) they were vulnerable. The first girl attacked had actually corresponded with Justin Tarr (which the sock puppeteers clearly saw an accomplishment to be jealous of). The puppeteers deliberately provoked her to make her *seem* crazy to the rest of us. There was method to this madness - as long as she seemed to be a threat, they didn't have to produce the real Justin. The genzine editor, another victim, was well-known as a gifted writer, but recently mentioned in chat that she was being treated for depression and was nervous about editing her own zine for the first time. The original club founder had not only founded a successful club, but had edited a zine (APO North Africa) and written a Rat Patrol novel; as far as vulnerability goes, not only was did she suffer from insecurity, but her mother was dying at the time. Also, driving her away enabled them to put one of their own in charge of the club. The LRDC con-mom had put on a wonderful convention and edited a successful zine; when attacked, she was going through a typical case of post-con blues.
Another pattern we had noticed was that every time someone mentioned something good that didn't have to do with the Gang of Eight, we were immediately drowned out or even contradicted. One of the oldtimers suggested we take advantage of that - everybody talk up Eclecticon to make the sock puppeteers mad, and maybe they'd make a mistake.
That's exactly what happened. A new sock puppet, "Marcia," appeared who claimed to have been at Eclecticon. In order to top our fun-filled account, she even claimed to have met Justin Tarr's grandson there at Cinda's table! On a different list for Justin Tarr groupies, the person posting as Justin Tarr acknowledged that this was true. But there were so many errors in this person's account that it was easy to prove false - which meant, by extension, that the person claiming to be Justin Tarr had to be fake as well.
In early December, someone posted three posts at 6 a.m. to the Rat Patrol club. One of them laid out the evidence that "Marcia" could not possibly have attended Eclecticon. The second one explained that the person posting as "Justin Tarr" couldn't possibly be the real Justin Tarr since he had confirmed Marcia's false account. The third, entitled, "Jealousy, Cruelty, and Cowardice" outlined the attacks made upon individuals. They were deleted by the clubmom a few hours later, but the damage had been done. A few people posted protesting the three posts, but those posts were deleted as well. All of the hundreds of puppets from the 30-year-old club unsubscribed, one after another, over the course of a few hours. So did the more prominent/individual puppets like Max, Keith, Gene, and Sofi, as did CatO and finally, the new clubmom. The original club founder came back.
It was spooky. There were a few days of stunned silence, and then people who had been lurking for months, afraid to post because of the all the nastiness, began poking their noses out. Explanations were made and repeated. There were some people who still didn't believe it, and thought that the sock puppets left because the three posts were nasty lies that hurt their feelings. The Weasel was among them - at first.
Unbeknownst to those of us who had been at Eclecticon,
The IP addresses for every sock puppet, from the 700+ old-club members to the individuals like Sofi and Max, indicated that every single post came from one person. Some of them traced back to CatO's home computer; many more of them traced back to her work computer. We were dumbfounded. We had assumed there was a ring of puppeteers: there was only one. The Weasel had once hated us just because his "friends" did; now he hated "them" much more because he realized he'd been deceived and betrayed, and became a staunch ally to the LightSiders. He posted the IP information in detail to several RP lists, including the Yahoo club, the email listserv, and the Justin Tarr groupie list.
At this point, all that was left was mopping up. We posted discreetly, not naming names, to several multifandom lists describing the pattern and what to watch out for. (She had done the same thing in Garrison's Gorillas fandom, and
It turned out that many of the stories in the six zines published by Rainbow Butterfly Press were written by CatO under various pen names; a number of the others had been plagiarized. The RBP webpages vanished overnight, and the zines were pulled from Cinda's press. I suppose they're collectors' items now!
The woman who originally proposed Rats on the Edge broke away from the group of CatO's insiders to join with the LightSiders and successfully remained active in fandom.
There was an almost soldier-like camaraderie among those of us who had been there on St. Crispin's Day, if that makes sense. But there was also a lot of regret for the people who had been hurt, both inside and outside the circle.
I know this leaves out a lot - the pseudo-foreign posters who couldn't fool the ESL teacher among the oldtimers; CatO's claims to be the mother of a cadet in one of the service academies who was following in the footsteps of his father and grandfather; the whole 9/11 mess with sock puppets trapped in the World Trade Tower. Hope this will at least provide the bare bones on which to hang a more complete story.
no subject
Date: 2006-06-26 07:42 pm (UTC)I had the vague impression that she had finished her work in GG fandom and then came over and started working on RP fandom (early in 2000, I think). Does this tally with your recollection? Or was she running this scam on two fandoms at the same time?
Btw, if anyone's interested I still have Amy_Portell_Not's posts and can post them here, if amedia doesn't mind.
That would rock. Thank you!
no subject
Date: 2006-06-26 09:23 pm (UTC)I don't know when Cat started being active in the RP fandom, but I didn't join the GG fandom until Autumn 2000 and she was still around then. I posted the Munchausen by Internet article on 22nd Sept. 2001, so it was just after that that she and her socks quit the club.
I do remember that she'd helped to organise a get together for GG fans with Ron Harper (who played Garrison) and Brendon Boone (who played Chief) - I think that was late 1999 or early 2000. It was at that get together that it became obvious to some of the other members that Cat had a screw (or several) loose. After that, in March 2000, some of the members split off from the WW2 club and formed their own club (Garrison's Gorillas Mansion).
Cat also put together a GG fanzine, "Reluctant Heroes". One of my stories is in there, but I never received a trib copy. The editors were Cat, Cindy and two socks - I'm almost sure Max was one of them.
I'll post Amy_Portell_Not's posts next. If you want to add them to your original post, that's fine.
Amy_Portell_Not's first post
Date: 2006-06-26 09:24 pm (UTC)I am appalled at the mockery you've been making of the fans, the actors, and fandom itself, by continually fabricating members. I've watched you make mistakes, contradictions, offenses, defenses, and clever but transparent cover-ups. It's time to show some proof to the few real members of these clubs, who have a right to know how you've been making fools of them.
Mr. Boone wasted time and energy trying to get to a chat where he believed dozens, if not hundreds, of fans were anxiously hoping to talk to him. He was frustrated and preoccupied with the worry that they might not know he tried...He didn't know that if he had made it there, he would've been thrown to the Wolf, encountering 21 clones of YOU, who wouldn't exactly be thrilled to talk with him, and four real people that he was already talking to in his own chat room. What a slap in the ego that would've been!
People who've been around for a while are realistic about the very small size of this fandom. But the newbies are being treated to a mockery of this new activity they love. Postings about what a success the mega-chat was, the excitement about "so many nations being represented", and asking people to post about how great it was so that even MORE will come next time, is a shameful derision to the REAL members. You KNOW there are no other people who those postings would entice to the next mega-chat, except more of your own aliases! The 15 or so real and interested members were already there, and almost all of the less than a dozen active Mansion members, whom you alienated long ago, boycotted it.
You fabricated over 600 members in one fell swoop, certain it was so outrageous that nobody would question it. Six hundred, 35-year, avid GG and Rat Patrol fans, and less than 40 show up at a chat that was planned just to accommodate this crowd. Of the ones who did come to the chat, isn't it curious that they were ALL online through YOUR specific Internet connection, and connected from Memphis, TN, even though they were all over the world?
I won't point out the volume of circumstantial evidence that leaves little chance of these people really existing. But isn't it interesting that ever since they joined, most of them haven't so much as posted ONE message; not one of them joined The Mansion; they started their own Ron Harper club instead of joining the one connected to The Mansion (and after hundreds of people joined, maybe five people log in every day, none of which is the founder but one is usually YOU); and still never more than 25 people (and that's being generous) log in to your club on most days-- and only half of that log into the Beehive-- yet none of these new members get messages by e-mail. Why did they join then? In a move of solidarity behind YOU, whom they supposedly didn't even know, just to get one-up on The Mansion members?
Boy, it must have really stuck in your craw to have to build up membership in The Beehive just because you're so tight with RaineChief and Alleycat.
So, this 35-year-old club, 600 joined-at-the-hip international people, not ONE of whom ever had a computer until recently, which has an annual convention all over the world but none went to the recent "Rat Patrol" convention, a club that nobody in fandom except YOU has ever heard of before, lurks for a while and then decides unanimously and very grandiosely to join the WWII club and not The Mansion after judging "the quality of the people".
CONTINUED ON THE NEXT POSTING...
Re: Amy_Portell_Not's second post
Date: 2006-06-26 09:25 pm (UTC)You've already made a joke of Yahoo's Club Ratings, prompting false excitement among the real members here about their clubs making it to the top of their categories.
Anyone who wants to see proof positive of Cat's warped mind, go to www.pcpages.com/ggchat. You'll see the MIRC Status Window log of the comings and goings of everyone who went to the mega-chat. The first page explains how to interpret the "Who Is" data, which shows that 41 people at the chat were all connected to the Internet through Cat's specific and unmaskable connection.
Cat, your intelligence and computer-savvy superiority isn't what you think it is. You've said that the chat log will be made available as soon as it's "pieced together," another of your subtle attempts to ward off suspicion. You, as CAT, were there the whole day, so why the need to make people think various members have to contribute a portion of the chat log?
Face it, you've been outsmarted by your very own game.
Oops, I can't figure out why this is posting under the nick of AmyPortell... My real name is Max. It must be because Amy and I are in a chat right now.
PS about Amy_Portell_Not
Date: 2006-06-26 09:34 pm (UTC)The pages that Amy linked to were removed after (I think) Cat complained to the server. It may be that some of the RP members still have the pages saved, but I don't think I have them. If I find them, I'll let you know.
I have a list of all of the socks Cat created, plus a photo of Cat herself. Again, if you want them, just say so.
I think one of the reasons she honed in on the RP fandom is that Justin Tarr was so very hard to find. IIRC, she claimed to be having an affair with him and she also claimed that she'd been married been one of the stuntmen (or crewmen?) on RP.
Another PS
Date: 2006-06-26 10:04 pm (UTC)Re: Another PS
Date: 2006-06-27 01:31 pm (UTC)That would be terrific. Whatever means of conveyance is easiest for you!
Amy_Portell_Not's explanation page 1
Date: 2006-06-27 05:50 pm (UTC)GG Chat pages
The status log on the next page won't make any sense to you unless you read this page first.
When someone's on a chat server, you can do a command called "Who Is" to find out how that person is connected to the Internet.
It shows the info (real or fake) about their name that they filled in in the MIRC Options window.
AND it will show you the specific connection node (IP number) for this particular time they've connected to the Internet. Most will also show a code for the city, state, or country of the access number they dialed in through, or for cable or other connections it shows the locality that their connection is in. THIS INFO CANNOT BE DISGUISED OR ALTERED. (This info has nothing to do with their connection to the MIRC chat server.)
Each time you connect to the Internet, you reach a main computer at the company you pay for your Internet access (your ISP). When you connect, you're routed to one of their many "arms", each with a different IP number. Each time you go online, you are randomly routed through a different number. These numbers are numerous.
When you connect to an MIRC server, and someone does a "Who Is" on you, they see your connection number explained above, location of your access, and the ISP that you are connected on. It also shows which chat rooms you are currently in.
Then it shows the branch of the MIRC server that you connected to (which is meaningless for identification purposes). MIRC servers have computers all over the world so that if one branch is full, you can still get onto that server by using a different route.
For instance, you can get onto Chatnet by clicking on "Random Chatnet Server", which might send you in through Australia even if you're in Florida, or you can try to connect to a particular branch of that server, such as "Detroit.MI.US.ChatNet.Org". You could connect to Washington D.C., then get knocked off the server, click on reconnect, and be connected to Australia. This connection has nothing to do with your Internet connection.
Re: Amy_Portell_Not's explanation page 2
Date: 2006-06-27 05:51 pm (UTC)Please remember that the Chatnet server location has nothing to do with the person's Internet connection or location.
The following means that the person filled in her MIRC Options window with "Wolfi" as her nickname, "Cat" in the User ID tab in "Ident", and "Cat" in the field for "real name".
Wolfi is Cat@en-759.memphis19.tn.pub-ip.psi.net*Cat
The @en-759.memphis19.tn means she called in to a local phone number in Memphis, TN and was randomly connected to router #759 that time she dialed-in. psi.net is the company (ISP) she was using to connect to the Internet.
The following is connected also through psi.net, but by a local Toronto number:
Sheilajea is jayjeffery@cn-895.toronto88.dialup.canada.psi.net*
Below: VC.shawcable.net means Rhonda's ISP is shawcable.net and she connected to the Internet in Vancouver.
Rhonda is msrhondal@cn-677.vc.shawcable.net*Rhonda
The following shows how two people on AOL were routed to different arms of AOL -- 457 and 459.
Trish is daintrisha@cn-457.ipt.aol.com*TrishaDian
DEWDrop is WhiteSwan@cn-459.ipt.aol.com*Evelya Wood
It is unlikely that two people on the same ISP would connect at the same IP node number, let alone 41 people doing the same.
The following shows a connection located in the UK on an ISP called cableinet:
thursdays is thursday@cn-649.cableinet.co.uk*Sarah Burgess
And Cindy's connection is in Minnesota on splitrock.net. (Her MIRC connection went through Australia; you'll see the sentence at the end every time someone connects on the Australian branch of the server:)
RaineChf is rainechief@cn-658.MINN.splitrock.net*CJ Barwin
RaineChf using Sydney.NSW.AU.ChatNet.Org [202.172.105.1]
It's YOU with the funny accent.
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Once online, you can connect NUMEROUS times to MIRC, but opening the MIRC program again and again. You need just one computer and one Internet connection. Every time you open MIRC, you get a new window. You can be on different servers at the same time, or different rooms in the same server, or in the same room: UNDER AS MANY DIFFERENT NAMES AS YOU CAN THINK UP.
BUT you CANNOT disguise the fact that all these people are YOU, because they will ALL show your unique Internet IP node connection to anyone who does a "Who Is" on any of the names you're using.
Sure, lots of people could be using psi.net as their ISP at the same time, and all be in MIRC in the same chat room. But they would NOT all have the same IP node OR all be calling in on a Memphis, Tennessee access number. Especially people who supposedly live ALL AROUND the world.
At one point Cat and all her alises left the chat suddenly, and when they all came back in together, they now had a NEW Internet connection. Instead of cn759 at Memphis19, they all came back through cn777 at Memphis20.
Let's see...Kris, Clint, and Paul in Hawaii...
Jesse's German (he's 71 and speaks fluent English but he can't translate a simple German phrase to English..)
...A couple of folks were in Israel...Someone's in Spain. Norway? Asia? And on and on.
Yet, all 41 of these people had the exact same Internet connection as Cat did, ALL DAY LONG, through Memphis, TN. And they all got knocked offline and all got back on at the same NEW routing number, and all the people who followed throughout the day came on at the same second routing number. Dohhhhhh.
She later mentioned casually, to ward off suspicion, that all the people on one ISP had been knocked off at the same time. Later, when she and all her alises got "killed" off the Chatnet server, she said it must've been a net-split (this happens when, for instance, the Detroit branch splits from the Australian branch, for about a minute).
But when these things happened, the ONLY people left in the chat room were the few real people who actually exist, and NOBODY except the people on Cat's connection got knocked out either time. This 12+ hour chat never had more than 27 people in there at any one time, and never more than SEVEN were real people.
Re: Amy_Portell_Not's explanation page 3
Date: 2006-06-27 05:52 pm (UTC)Jesse
Ter-Jer
Medoly
Shael
aphyd
Perri
Darek
Kou
Alex
Lute
Alana
Kristie
Mike G
Serge
Tove
Mandy
MA (and when she came in as MA, she forgot to change the real name ID from MikeG)
June
Keith
Clint
Gene
Hazen
Koos
BingHu
Shannon
Kris
JJ
Paul
Charlie
Max
DavidHawk
Alan
SueB
Ray
Will
Diane
Sofi
Kiera
Casey
PatF.
Each time one of Cat's aliases left, another new one came in within a few seconds, and always on the same Internet connection. By way of comparison, take a gander at Lana's comings and goings, each time connecting at a different routing number to her ISP. It also happened with Alleycat and one or two others when they went offline and then came back later.
If you still don't believe it, try it yourself. See if you can mask your IP number by opening MIRC dozens of times. You can't.
Connect to the Internet, then connect to MIRC and do a "Who Is" on yourself. Jot down the connection number. Then go offline reconnect, get back onto MIRC and SEE how the IP number will be slightly different EACH TIME. You can be sure Cat will come up with some explanation for this. But for 41 people to connect all day long at the same IP number is about as definitive as DNA testing.
Re: Amy_Portell_Not's explanation page 4
Date: 2006-06-27 05:52 pm (UTC)When you see "#gg-chat" followed by names, it shows all the people in the room at that moment.
A "@" before someone's name means they were a room operator at that time.
Example: "***Perri sets mode to +o Shael" and "-o Perri" means Perri just made Shael a room operator and removed Perri as one.
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Does Cat really expect anyone to believe that 41 people supposedly all over the WORLD have the same ISP and all connect to the Internet through a Memphis, TN number, with the SAME routing number, on and off throughout a whole day and night???
RaineChf? Alleycat? Rhonda and Jan? Have you really bought this sudden influx of hundreds of new members into your clubs, who then:
Never log in or add up to a large number of daily visitors, OR get the postings by e-mail;
Never post a message;
Never got to a chat;
Don't have Yahoo Messenger??
Haven't you added up all the past discrepencies and coincidences? Has ANYONE really believed that Keith and Max and Jeep Jockey are real people???? Or that Kris, Paul and Clint, three 20-ish heterosexual guys with busy, active lives, are THIS involved in an old TV show about five men, which has an acknowledged history of attracting exclusively drooling WOMEN fans??
Has anyone actually believed that these 600 new members really exist?? Cat, you have a great imagination and are really good at chatting with yourselves. But your speech patterns have given you away over and over again. And your mistakes and cover-ups have added up to a whole lotta circumstantial evidence over time. You are incredibly transparent to anyone who uses their brain. You should be ashamed of yourself for leading on the few real fans with this disrespect, getting them to waste their time getting to know people who don't exist, and fighting a solitary war, competing with nobody to turn any real newbies off to members of The Mansion, so that you can, as you say, "not get mad or even get even, but GET AHEAD."
If you click on the following link, you'll see the MIRC status window for the entire length of the GG Mega-chat of June 9, 2001, as it unfolded by using the "Who Is" command at various times. If anyone suggests that this info has been altered, be assured that I've also kept bitmap photos taken of various screens. To request those screens to be added to this site, post a message at The Mansion, The Beehive, or the GGWWII club.
Re: Amy_Portell_Not's IP page 1
Date: 2006-06-27 05:54 pm (UTC)***Connecting to Detroit (6667)
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Eh?!
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Ter-Jer using Sydney.NSW.AU.ChatNet.Org [202.172.105.1] It's YOU with the funny accent.
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#gg-chat my Trish Darek Kou lana0926 Alix RaineChf Lute Jesse Ter-Jer Wolfi Rhonda Medoly Shael Dayphd @Perri
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Trish is diantrisha@cn-457.ipt.aol.com * TrishaDian
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Darek using Sydney.NSW.AU.ChatNet.Org [202.172.105.1] It's YOU with the funny accent.
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Kou is Kou@cn-759.memphis19.tn.pub-ip.psi.net * Kou
Kou using Sydney.NSC.AU.ChatNet.Org [202.172.105.1] It's You with the funny accent.
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Alix is Alix@cn-759.memphis19.tn.pub-ip.psi.net * Alix
Alix using PrinceGeorge.BC.CA.ChatNet.Org [206.108.32.100] Ph34r Canada, Eh?!
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Lute is Lute@cn-759.memphis19.tn.pub-ip.psi.net * Lute
Lute using PrinceGeorge.BC.CA.ChatNet.Org [206.108.32.100] Ph34r Canada, Eh?!
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Wolfi is Cat@cn-759.memphis19.tn.pub-ip.psi.net * Cat
Wolfi using Detroit.MI.US.ChatNet.Org The Abyss
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#gg-chat nance Serge MikeG Alana RaineChf Kristin Tove Sheilajea thursdays Trish Darek Kou Alix Lute Jess @Ter-Jer Wolfi Medoly shael Dayphd @Perri
#gg-chat End of the Incantation of Souls.
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Alana is Alana@cn-759.memphis19.tn.pub-ip.psi.net * Alana
Alana on #gg-chat
Alana using Sydney.NSW.AU.ChatNet.org [202.172.105.1] It's YOU with the funny accent.
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Re: Amy_Portell_Not's IP page 2
Date: 2006-06-27 05:54 pm (UTC)Kristin on #gg-chat
Kristin using Sydney.NSW.AU.ChatNet.Org [202.172.105.1] It's YOU with the funny accent.
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MikeG is MikeG@cn-759.memphis19.tn.pub-ip.psi.net * MikeG
MikeG on #gg-chat
MikeG using Sydney.NSW.AU.ChatNet.Org [202.172.105.1] It's YOU with the funny accent.
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Serge on #gg-chat
Serge using Istanbul.TR.EU.ChatNet.Org [212.174.107.11] irc.verisoft.net.tr/Istanbul.
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thursdays is thursday@cn-649.cableinet.co.uk * Sarah Burgess
thursdays on #gg-chat
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Tove is Tove@cn-759.memphis19.tn.pub-ip.psi.net * Tove
Tove on #gg-chat
Tove using PrinceGeorge.BC.CA.ChatNet.org [206.108.32.100] Ph34r Canada, Eh?!
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Sheilajea is jayjeffery@cn-895.toronto88.dialup.canada.psi.net * Jane Fuller
Sheilajea on #gg-chat
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DEWDrop isWhiteSawn@cn-459.ipt.aol.com * Evelyn Wood
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RaineChf is rainechief@cn-658.MINN.splitrock.net * CJ Barwin
RaineChf on #gg-chat
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alleycat4 is cdy@cn-753.tc.lhck.dial.1st.net * MysteryLady
alleycat4 on #gg-chat
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JC is rainbowbut@cn-732.ab.hsia.telus.net * Jan
JC on #gg-chat
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Keith on #gg-chat
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Clint on #gg-chat
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Re: Amy_Portell_Not's IP page 3
Date: 2006-06-27 05:55 pm (UTC)-
Gene is Gene@cn-759.memphis19.tn.pub-ip.psi.net * Gene
Gene on #gg-chat
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Hazen on #gg-chat
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lana0926 No such Lost Soul
lana0925 End of the Incantation of tht that Who is.
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Re: Amy_Portell_Not's IP page 4
Date: 2006-06-27 05:56 pm (UTC)-
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Justine is Rainbowbut@cn-617.tnt2.cbr1.da.uu.net * Justine
Justine on #gg-chat
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Re: Amy_Portell_Not's IP page 5
Date: 2006-06-27 05:56 pm (UTC)-
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TimTam is lejkc@cn-739.nas.one.net.au*me
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Shannon is on #gg-chat
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Kris on #gg-chat
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BingHu is Bing@cn-777.memphis20.tn.pub-ip.psi.net * Bing
BingHu on #gg-chat
BingHu using PrinceGeorge.BC.CA.ChatNet.Org [206.108.32.100] Ph34r Canada, Eh?!
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Medoly is Medoly@cn-777.memphis20.tn.pub-ip.psi.net * Medoly
Medoly on #gg-chat
Medoly using Sydney.NSW.AU.ChatNet.Org [202.172.105.1] It's YOU with the funny accent.
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Gene is Gene@cn-777.memphis20.tn.pub-ip.psi.net * Gene
Gene on @#gg-chat
Gene using Sydney.NSW.AU.ChatNet.Org [202.172.105.1] It's YOU with the funny accent.
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Re: Amy_Portell_Not's IP page 6
Date: 2006-06-27 05:57 pm (UTC)JJ on @#gg-chat
JJ using PrinceGeorge.BC.CA.ChatNet.Org [206.108.32.100] Ph34r Canada, Eh?!
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Keith is Keith @cn-777.memphis20.tn.pub-ip.psi.net * Keith
Keith on #gg-chat
Keith using Sydney.NSW.AU.ChatNet.Org [202.172.105.1] It's YOU with the funny accent.
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Ter-Jer is Ter-jer@cn-777.memphis20.tn.pub-ip.psi.net * Terry and Jerry
Ter-Jer on #gg-chat
Ter-Jer using PrinceGeorge.BC.CA.ChatNet.Org [ 206.108.32.100] Ph34r Canada, Eh?!
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Jesse on #gg-chat
Jesse using Sydney.NSW.AU.ChatNet.Org [202.172.105.1] It's YOU with the funny accent.
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Kou is Kou@cn-777.memphis20.tn.pub-ip.psi.net * Kou
Kou on #gg-chat
Kou using Sydney.NSW.AU.ChatNet.Org [202.172.105.1] It's YOU with the funny accent.
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June is June@cn-777.memphis20.tn.pub-ip.psi.net * June
June on #gg-chat
June using PrinceGeorge.BC.CA.ChatNet.Org [206.108.32.100] Ph34r Canada, Eh?!
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Mandy is Mandy@cn-777.memphis20.tn.pub-ip.psi.net * Mandy
Mandy on #gg-chat
Mandy using PrinceGeorge.BC.CA.ChatNet.Org [206.108.32.100] Ph34r Canada, Eh?!
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Shannon on #gg-chat
Shannon using PrinceGeorge.BC.CA.ChatNet.Org [206.108.32.100] Ph34r Canada, Eh?!
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Tove is Tove@cn-777.memphis20.tn.pub-ip.psi.net * Tove
Tove on #gg-chat
Tove using Sydney.NSW.AU.ChatNet.Org [202.172.105.1] It's YOU with the funny accent.
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Kristin is Tove@cn-777.memphis20.tn.pub-ip.psi.net * Kristin
Kristin on #gg-chat
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MA is MikeG@cn-777.memphis20.tn.pub-ip.psi.net * MA
MA on #gg-chat
MA using Sydney.NSW.AU.ChatNet.Org [202.172.105.1] It's YOU with the funny accent.
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Darek is Darek@cn-777.memphis20.tn.pub-ip.psi.net * Darek
Darek on #gg-chat
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MikeG on #gg-chat
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LTPaul on #gg-chat
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Charlie is Charlie@cn-777.memphis20.tn.pub-ip.psi.net * Charlie
Charlie on #gg-chat
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Max on #gg-chat
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Re: Amy_Portell_Not's IP page 7
Date: 2006-06-27 05:58 pm (UTC)-
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Re: Amy_Portell_Not's IP page 8
Date: 2006-06-27 05:58 pm (UTC)-
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Cat is ~rainbowbu@cn-777.memphis20.tn.pub-ip.psi.net * Cat
Cat on @#gg-chat
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Justine on #gg-chat
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Shael is Shael@cn-777.memphis20.tn.pub-ip.psi.net * Shael
Shael on #gg-chat
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Max is Max@cn-777.memphis20.tn.pub-ip.psi.net * Max
Max on #gg-chat
Max using PrinceGeorge.BC.CA.ChatNet.Org [206.108.32.100] Ph34r Canada, Eh?!
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JJ on #gg-chat
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Kris on #gg-chat
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LTPaul on #gg-chat
LTPaul using Sydney.NSW.AU.ChatNet.Org [202.172.105.1] It's YOU with the funny accent.
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Trish is diantrisha@cn-460.ipt.aol.com * TrishaDian
Trish on #gg-chat
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Charlie on #gg-chat
Charlie using Sydney.NSW.AU.ChatNet.Org [202.172.105.1] It's YOU with the funny accent.
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Clint is Clint@cn-777.memphis20.tn.pub-ip.psi.net * Clint
Clint on #gg-chat
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DavidHawk is David@cn-777.memphis20.tn.pub-ip.psi.net * David
David on #gg-chat
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Keith on #gg-chat
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Alan is Alan@cn-777.memphis20.tn.pub-ip.psi.net * Alan
Alan on #gg-chat
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Re: Amy_Portell_Not's IP page 8
Date: 2006-06-27 05:59 pm (UTC)-
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Re: Amy_Portell_Not's IP page 9
Date: 2006-06-27 06:00 pm (UTC)Trish on #gg-chat
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Re: Amy_Portell_Not's IP page 9
Date: 2006-06-27 07:34 pm (UTC)First of all, thanks for getting this and posting it! And thank you for permission to add it to the collection - for right now I will probably just direct-link to it from my next post on this topic, but this should eventually have its own page on a website or something.
And whoever Amy_Portell_Not is, my hat is off to her. This must have been a lot of tedious work!
Re: Amy_Portell_Not's IP page 9
Date: 2006-06-27 10:20 pm (UTC)I'd love to know who she was too. None of us ever found out (so far as I know).
Btw, I uploaded several files to the Yahoo group. So far as I'm concerned, you can use them however you wish. Good luck with the report - and let me know if I can do anything to help. :o)
I'm going to friend you, btw, so I can keep up with this. You don't have to friend me back, but you can if you want to.